Galileo’s Bluff

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

( Romans 1:21 )

The earth is at the center of the observable universe. This is an empirical observation. Heliocentricity is not observed, it is theoretical. Oddly enough, people today simply cannot grasp this concept.

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13 Replies to “Galileo’s Bluff”

    1. FYI the edge has indeed been found, except that the findings are reported as “the heliopause.” Both Voyager and the New Horizons space missions detected a brightly shining wall on the edge of space. Popular science adapted this to fit its false narrative of godless existence.

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  1. You Stated — “My statement is empirical. Yours is theoretical.”

    My Response — Neither is true.

    You Stated — “Both Voyager and the New Horizons space missions detected a brightly shining wall on the edge of space”

    My Response — They also detected the center but we are not in it, this is to say that if you believe the one why dismiss the other?

    You Stated — “Popular science adapted this to fit its false narrative of godless existence.”

    My Response — Science doesn’t prove or disprove God so there is no narrative.

    You Stated — “Our frame of reference is, by default, earth centered. From our vantage point on the earth we observe the cosmos orbiting the earth every day. We observe that the stars have an even distribution in every direction.”

    My Response — We are not earth-centered, we are in fact only on one side of the earth and we don’t actually observer stars having an even distribution since we can only observer one small section at a time and only in one direction at a time.

    One-Sided is not centered.
    One Section is not a center view.

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      1. You Stated — “You’re being theoretical.”

        My Response — Nope. My statement is factual, “We are not earth-centered, we are in fact only on one side of the earth and we don’t actually observer stars having an even distribution since we can only observer one small section at a time”

        1 John 4:6
        6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

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      2. You are not in the same ballpark.
        You have no comprehension of the difference between theoretical and empirical.
        The cosmos is observed to rotate around the earth every day. On average the stars have an even distribution in every direction, and the edge of space is the same distance away in every direction. This is directly observable – empirical.
        Whatever you choose to believe about the universe which deviates from this basic observation is theoretical.

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      3. Still nope. We can’t observe the entire cosmos and we don’t have any scientific information stating otherwise.

        We also have proof from the Bible that man doesn’t know everything about the heavens.

        If you want to ignore fact to pretend to win a disagreement then lol

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      4. Sorry, you clearly don’t understand what empirical means. We observe the observable universe. We observe that we are at the center of it, because it is what we can observe from our frame of reference.
        I’m not ignoring any facts my friend.

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      5. You are ignoring the obvious fact that we can only observe from one direction at a time, so we are clearly not seeing the entire cosmos.

        If you are in a room looking only in one direction how do you know the wall behind you is the same distance as the one in front.

        Only God can see in all directions and comprehend the depth of his creation.

        You are just boasting of what can’t be proven as though you have some secret knowledge.

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      6. We observe the cosmos rotating. We can stand in the same spot and watch the entire thing pass by.
        With all due respect it’s starting to sound like you are able to comprehend that basic observation is fact.
        What you call “facts” appears to be poorly understood pseudoscience propaganda.

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      7. Incorrect, we only have observation points of space on certain parts of the planet, we have never in the history of science observed all positions of the cosmos from the surface.

        We also don’t have any equipment capable of observing the entire cosmos from a fixed position. We break it into zones of which a very small percentage have successfully been mapped.

        I am literally saying that you statement is at best poetic. It is not based on any scientific fact and it is not backed by any biblical scripture.

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      8. You’re glitching.
        The observable universe is the entire universe.
        That’s empirical.
        You are describing something theoretical which is not a testable hypothesis. That means it’s not scientific.

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