Job 17

Part two of Job’s response to Eliphaz’s second speech.

Job is continuing his outspoken yet internal dialogue with God, speaking about his friends not to them.

v.4 Job accuses God of hiding their hearts from understanding.

v.6 Job says that he has become a byword. This means that people are using his name as a threat or insult: “If you don’t change your ways you will end up like Job!” Whereas his name used be be like music.

v.8-9 Job warns that innocent men will take this situation as a confirmation of their righteousness and be emboldened against the ungodly. A very bad situation because they can have their lives taken away in an instant, regardless of how good they think  they are.

v.10 “I cannot find one wise man among you – y’all are totally clueless.

v.13 & v.16 Job refers to Sheol.

  1. In v.13 “the grave is mine house,” grave is a translation of sheol.
  2. In v.16 “they sahall go down to the bars of the pit,” pit is a translation of sheol.

This is a reference to hell, or, more accurately, the place we refer to as Abraham’s bosom. This was also described by Jonah:

Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly,
And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Hell is a translation of sheol. Jonah saw bars.

These are references to the pillars of the earth.

Job 16

Job’s response to Eliphaz’s second speech.

Job seems more contrite – at first. After his previous speeches in which he dug his way ever deeper into an understanding of the mind of Christ, now he is having a pity party.

After his deep soliloquy he is jarred back to reality by Eliphaz’s idiotic repetition of his former words.

  • Soliloquy – an act of speaking one’s thoughts aloud when by oneself or regardless of any hearers, especially by a character in a play.

The words of a wise man’s mouth are gracious; but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself. (Ecclesiastes 10:12)

A fool’s lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes. (Proverbs 18:6)

He begins by telling his friends that if the situation were reversed he would say nice thing to them and try to help them. v. 4-5

Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out. (Proverbs 20:5)

In v. 7-15 He goes on to severely criticize his friends.

v. 9 mine enemy sharpeneth his eyes upon me.

And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. (Mark 7:20-23)

He seems to be talking about them not to them. He is continuing his conversation directly with God.

Stand in awe, and sin not: commune with your own heart upon your bed, and be still. Selah. (Psalms 4:4)

v. 16-22 he defends himself once again and boldly claims that he didn’t do anything to deserve this v. 17 he appeals to heaven v. 19

Whom, though I were righteous, yet would I not answer, but I would make supplication to my judge.
If I had called, and he had answered me; yet would I not believe that he had hearkened unto my voice. (Job 9:15-16)

My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you might not sin. And if anyone should sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous One.  (1 John 2:1)

Job 15

Brief synopsis of Job chapters so far:

  1. Satan accuses job 1
  2. Satan accuses Job 2
  3. Job : I wish I had never been born
  4. Eliphaz: your worst fear has come upon you
  5. Eliphaz: you need to get right with God, this is your own fault
  6. Job: My grief is so great that I wish God would kill me
  7. Job: I’m going to say what needs to be said; what’s the point of life?
  8. Bildad: grass don’t grow without mud Job, you’re a sinner and this is your own fault
  9. Job: I wish I could reason with God, but if he answered me I wouldn’t know what to say
  10. Job: I wish I could ask God why he did this to me
  11. Zophar: you’re lying and you didn’t even get all that you deserved
  12. Job: It’s not as simple as you think: the wicked prosper and the righteous are taken away
  13. Job: you guys are lying about God: he is my salvation
  14. Job: will man live again? when God’s wrath is over, he will remember me
  15. Eliphaz: Have you lost your mind?

Last week we saw that Job was starting to talk about and look forward to a new life in Christ. Eliphaz is outraged that Job could even think such a thing and asks Job:

  • Should you really be talking a bunch of junk?
  • Have you no fear of God at all?
  • You’re condemming yourself out of your own mouth.

Hast thou heard the secret of God? and dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself? (Job 15:8)

It seems that perhaps Job has:

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller? (Romans 11:33-34)

For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it? (Jeremiah 23:18)

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. (1 Corinthians 2:14-16)

All Eliphaz has to say to Job is

  • What do you know that we don’t?
  • I’m older than you, you think you’re wiser than me?
  • How could you even let these words go out of your mouth?

Perfect Peace

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Isaiah 26:3

  • Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

I know that this is going to sound strange, but could it be possible that hell is real?

We are called to be salt in the world, to make it less dull and boring. How can I be salt?

  • Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. (Matthew 5:13)

Not only could hell be real, but what if it is the reason for volcanoes and global warming?

Hawaii volcano produces methane and ‘eerie’ blue flames

  • And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:7)
  • And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. (Colossians 3:15)
  • Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. (John 14:27)
  • Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all. (2 Thessalonians 3:16)

 

Mind The Gap

And I sought for a man among them who should build up the wall and stand in the breach before me for the land, that I should not destroy it, but I found none.

(Ezekiel 22:30) ESV
  1. Hedge What is the hedge?
  2. Edge The hedge has an edge. Why does the hedge need making up?
  3. Wedge We need a wedge to fix the hedge.
  4. Pledge What’s our role?
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Job 14

Last week I was going to mention the following passage but I didn’t get to it. Pastor Don mentioned it in the sermon that morning!

Jeremiah, like Job, despairs and tries to quit preaching

  • Jeremiah 20:7-9

    O LORD, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived: thou art stronger than I, and hast prevailed: I am in derision daily, every one mocketh me.
    For since I spake, I cried out, I cried violence and spoil; because the word of the LORD was made a reproach unto me, and a derision, daily.
    Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.

  • Lamentations 1:13From above hath he sent fire into my bones, and it prevaileth against them: he hath spread a net for my feet, he hath turned me back: he hath made me desolate and faint all the day.

Why was I even born?

  • Jeremiah 20:14-18

    Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed.
    Cursed be the man who brought tidings to my father, saying, A man child is born unto thee; making him very glad.
    And let that man be as the cities which the LORD overthrew, and repented not: and let him hear the cry in the morning, and the shouting at noontide;
    Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me.
    Wherefore came I forth out of the womb to see labour and sorrow, that my days should be consumed with shame?


Today’s chapter: Job wistfully looks forward to a new life in Christ.

  • Job 14:1-6

Man is going to die. His days are numbered.

  • Job 14:7-9

Cut down a tree and it grows back

  • Job 14:10

Where is man while he is dead?

  • Job 14:11-13

Man dies and waits until the heavens be no more and God’s wrath is past.

  • Job 14:14-15
  • Romans 6:4
    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
  • Colossians 3:1
    If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
  • 2 Corinthians 5:17
    Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
  • 1 Peter 1:3
    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Does man live again? I will wait the appointed time and then be changed. You will call and I will answer.

  • Job 14:16-17

God knows everything, nothing is hidden.

  • Job 14:18-22

The world will come to nothing and pass away and I won’t be aware of it.

Job 13

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Part 2 of Job’s response to Zophar.

We should be checking the things that we are taught by pastors and preachers:

  • Acts 17:10-11
    And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Why do bad things happen to good people? The best reason I have found:

  • Isaiah 57:1
    The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.

Jeremiah echoes Job’s lament:

  • Jeremiah 12:1-3
    Righteous art thou, O LORD, when I plead with thee: yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?
    Thou hast planted them, yea, they have taken root: they grow, yea, they bring forth fruit: thou art near in their mouth, and far from their reins.
    But thou, O LORD, knowest me: thou hast seen me, and tried mine heart toward thee: pull them out like sheep for the slaughter, and prepare them for the day of slaughter.

No one determines his or her outcome.

  • Jeremiah 17:11
    As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool.

Make Their Ears Heavy

Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.
And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

(Isaiah 6:8-10) KJV

There’s a point in a conversation when it’s obvious that the person with whom you’re arguing is repeating words and phrases that they’ve learned by wrote, but that they have no actual understanding of the subject matter.

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