Heliocentric vs. Geocentrospheric?

The sun also rises, and the sun goes down, And hastens to the place where it arose.

(Ecclesiastes 1:5) NKJV

An overwhelming majority of people believe that we observe the Earth orbiting the sun but it’s not an observation, heliocentricity is theoretical. We observe the cosmos from Earth, which makes it Geocentrospheric.

Heliocentric (sun worship) or Geocentrospheric?

  • IF you were on the Sun you’d be observing heliocentricity,
  • SINCE you’re not, you’re on the Earth, you’re observing Geocentrosphericity.

We all have the same evidence. Our choice of paradigm determines what we think it’s evidence of.

Matty’s Razor

We (that’s me and the Holy spirit) make a comparison of two competing cosmological models. This is also a test of the scientific procedure used to determine which cosmological model is the most likely.

  1. Mainstream science (SciPop)
  2. The Bible (Matty’s Paradigm)

When we say “scientific procedure” it’s actually a peer reviewed excuse to choose a model which fits THE NARRATIVE of godless existence (SciPop). The “science” used to decide if the universe is heliocentric (which no one’s ever seen because no one’s ever visited the sun) or Geocentrospheric (which we see with our own eyes every day) is called Occam’s razor.

The idea behind Occam’s razor is that the hypothesis with the fewest assumption is the one which is most likely to be true, or something along those lines. We need to understand what assumptions have been made in each of the competing models.

Faith is believing in something that you can’t see, because of evidence.

– Faith, definition

Assumptions in the Heliocentric Model

Let’s consider what assumptions must be made in the heliocentric model. It starts with Copernicus who explained the mental gymnastics necessary to imagine the cosmos from the frame of reference of the sun.

Copernicus’ Assumptions

  1. There is no one center of all the celestial circles or spheres.
  2. The center of the earth is not the center of the universe, but only the center towards which heavy bodies move and the center of the lunar sphere.
  3. All the spheres surround the sun as if it were in the middle of them all, and therefore the center of the universe is near the sun.
  4. The ratio of the earth’s distance from the sun to the height of the firmament (outermost celestial sphere containing the stars) is so much smaller than the ratio of the earth’s radius to its distance from the sun that the distance from the earth to the sun is imperceptible in comparison with the height of the firmament.
  5. Whatever motion appears in the firmament arises not from any motion of the firmament, but from the earth’s motion. The earth together with its circumjacent elements performs a complete rotation on its fixed poles in a daily motion, while the firmament and highest heaven abide unchanged.
  6. What appear to us as motions of the sun arise not from its motion but from the motion of the earth and our sphere, with which we revolve about the sun like any other planet. The earth has, then, more than one motion.
  7. The apparent retrograde and direct motion of the planets arises not from their motion but from the earth’s. The motion of the earth alone, therefore, suffices to explain so many apparent inequalities in the heavens.

These are all assumptions and none of them are self-evident. It’s like, you can imagine that you’re on the bridge of the star ship Enterprise if you want to, no one’s going to stop you. Popular science (SciPop) went on from that point to develop enough rationale to prove that you’re on the bridge of the Enterprise, even though you aren’t. It’s called Star Trek.

The endeavor runs into a lot of obstacles, and we have to tackle problems with the model. We’re not on the Enterprise, so how do we make it seem as if, not that we are, but that we could be. The following list are things that have to be resolved. This is inductive rationalization necessary to make the heliocentric model theoretically possible. Theory is the scientific word for faith, so each theory is an explanation of the mental gymnastics necessary to rationalize the assumption.


  1. Call upon the name of Jesus Christ,
    • believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,
  2. confess your sin.

The Additional Assumptions of Heliocentricity

  1. We can’t believe what we see with our own eyes.
  2. The mass of the sun is greater than the Earth.
  3. Stellar parallax in a heliocentric geometry.
  4. Stars are suns.
  5. Red shift is a measurement of recession speed.
  6. Gravity bends space.
  7. Black holes are real.
  8. Dark matter exists.

The first set of 7 assumptions has to be multiplied by the second set of 8 to get 56. If you’re wondering why we’re multiplying rather than adding it’s because the system is circular. For instance, Copernicus provided the rationale for how to imagine heliocentricity. If you then produce Copernicus as proof of heliocentricity you just did something called circular reasoning.

However, the system is beset with problems and so we have to induce more rationale to resolve them. Here’s a list of the purported proofs of heliocentricity which are instructions for the mental gymnastics necessary to prove that something isn’t what it actually is.

Purported Proofs of Heliocentricity

Phenomena or Individuals
1Aberration of starlight
2Aether drag
3Angular size of the sun
5Bessel and 61 Cygni
6Bradley and Molyneux
7Citing incorrect Geocentric models
9Coriolis effect
10Doppler and the Voyagers
12Foucault pendulum
13Gravitational assists
15Kepler’s Laws
16Lorentz’ length contraction
17Luminiferous aether
18Mass of the sun / Newtonian physics
19Moons of Jupiter
20Phases of Venus
21Procession of the equinoxes
23Redshift / Universe expansion / Hubble Constant
24Relativistic reference frames
25Retrograde / relative motion
27Seasons and weather
29Special relativity
30Stellar parallax
31Stellar spectroscopy
32Transit of the ISS during an eclipse
33Transit of Venus
34Variation in the sun’s orbital radius
None of these phenomena or individuals prove heliocentricity or that the Earth is moving.

It’s vast and intricate, but the entire thing is an inductive rationalization of the premise of heliocentricity, none of it is proof of heliocentricity. Now we take our 56 assumptions and multiply them by the 34 above. We’re up to 1,904.

The reason for creation is the manifestation of sentient life with free will.

– The Reason for Creation

Assumptions in the Geocentrospheric Model

Here’s what we must assume in order for the Geocentrospheric system to be true:

  • We can believe what we see with our own eyes.

The purpose of creation is to bring about the permanent physical separation of light from darkness, day from night, good from evil.

– The Purpose of Creation

Comparing Assumptions between the Competing Cosmological Models

Let’s see how Occam’s razor is looking. Which model, heliocentric or Geocentrospheric, has the fewest assumptions?

– Applying Occam’s razor to competing cosmological models.

What impact does this have on the scientific procedure, as used by peer review, known as Occam’s razor? How does this look when viewed through a gospel lens?

Occam’s razor is a philosophical tenet which epitomizes the strong delusion (the scientific embodiment of willful ignorance) which is an excuse to ignore the truth whenever it’s inconvenient. It’s a major deity in the atheist pantheon, the subject of a lot of special pleading.

– Occam’s razor, definition

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