Calculating the Lifetime of the Sun

Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt.

(Leviticus 19:36) KJV

Using hydrogen fusion rationale, the E=MC2 energy conversion equation, and the sun’s real mass, it’s life expectancy is approximately 102 years.

People get upset when we point out that popular science (SciPop) got the mass of the sun wrong. It’s understandable. SciPop is supposed to be trustworthy, the benchmark for real knowledge, right? Wrong. SciPop is a hack job designed to show that God isn’t necessary for our existence. Unfortunately for SciPop, God created the universe. Now would be a good time to call upon the name of Jesus Christ.

We all have the same evidence. Our choice of paradigm determines what we think it’s evidence of.

Matty’s Razor

Whenever SciPop lands on a piece of information that looks credible and supports its narrative of godless existence then it latches on like a limpet. In this case, the mass of the sun as calculated using Kepler’s 3rd law of planetary motion and Newton’s law of universal gravitation. These are both empirical formulas, so ii feels absolutely rock solid, the stuff that science is made of, the real rubber-meets-the-road kind of nitty gritty science. Except that the calculation requires the assumption of heliocentricity. Did you get that? Newton and Kepler didn’t prove that the Earth orbits the sun, they assumed it.

A good friend of ours, well, an atheist science troll (AST) actually, tweeted us a link that supposedly shows how the mass of the sun is calculated. The article was entitled Calculating the Lifetime of the Sun and it was a .PDF of a really well laid out presentation that was obviously a physics lecture (no longer available from the original source). We (at the time) worked our way through it to find out where it calculates the mass of the sun, ostensibly using hydrogen fusion, but it turns out that they’re using the mass of the sun from Newton and Kepler, so it’s still derived by assuming heliocentricity.

Faith is believing in something that you can’t see, because of evidence.

– Faith, definition

The SciPop Lifespan of the Sun

A few people have attempted to explain to us how the mass of the sun is “measured” using Hydrogen fusion. We say attempted because they always wound up realizing that they were still dependent on the mass value we get from Kepler and Newton. Hydrogen fusion isn’t used to calculate the mass of the Sun, it’s used to contrive a fictional life expectancy for the sun using the mass value generated by Newton and Kepler It’s quite an elaborate calculation but it’s very logically laid out. The logic goes something like this:

The Lifespan of the Sun

• The sun produces energy through nuclear fusion (power output).
• The power output per second is proportional to mass lost.
• By measuring solar intensity using light meters we may estimate mass loss per second,
• we use E=MC2, the conversion rate from matter to energy,
• incidentally, the use of E=MC2 at this point in the calculation is arbitrary, since it has never been proven that this is actually the rate of conversion from matter to energy or why it would be, but it’s use is taken as proof of relativity,
• as far as SciPop is concerned, it’s a slam dunk,
• it’s a load of dingo’s kidneys.
• The rate of fusion for Hydrogen at a given temperature can be measured in a lab1.
• We know the rate of reaction as a proportion of total mass2.
• This gives us the total mass.
1. We assume that we understand the fusion process taking place in the sun, and we assume that this is replicated in the lab experiment. That’s called a leap of faith.
2. Hydrogen fusion is believed to be taking place on the surface of the sun which is 10% of the sun’s total mass.
• Why 10%? – It’s arbitrary.
• 10% of what? – The mass of the sun we get from Kepler and Newton. Duh?

Faith is believing in something that you can’t see, because of evidence.

– Faith, definition

The calculation starts with finding the total energy output of the sun, dividing it by the energy output of combining 4 hydrogen atoms to make a helium atom, then figuring out how many reactions per second, how many seconds, and comes up with the number of years that the sun is going to burn. It’s great! it tells us that the sun is going to burn for a total of 10.8 billions years! That’s fantastic, right? since the sun has only been burning for 4.6 billion years then it has a good 5+ billion years to go and SciPop has once again removed it as any possible source of worry. Good old SciPop, your buddy. Brought to you by the nice people at peer review.

So we got to thinking that we could plug the Matty’s Paradigm mass of the sun into the calculation and get a lifetime for the sun based on reality. Wouldn’t that be cool? Then we could get a number based on a mass that’s derived from Biblical scholarship, we might even come up with a lifetime for the sun that would help to predict the second coming of Christ? Awesome or what?

Nope. 102 years. We’re on borrowed time folks. The only thing keeping us going is the grace of God.

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