Does God Lie in the Bible? Part 1

Does God Lie in the Bible? Part 1

Numbers 23:19

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

The premise on which Matty’s Paradigm is based is “God cannot lie,” (Titus 1:2). I have used this premise from which to deduce how the physical evidence of “science,” can be accounted for by the record we have in the Bible of the earth’s origin, history and future. The reasoning is simple:

  • IF God cannot lie
  • AND he states that the Bible is His Word
  • THEN the Bible is true.

This also gives us the reason why we have to investigate “science,” to find out why the story it tells of our origin is so different from that we find in the Bible:

  • IF the Bible is true
  • AND science has a rationalization of our existence which is different to the Bible
  • THEN science is wrong.

I have made significant progress with this approach and I believe that I have resolved some major issues, including the nature of gravity and planetary orbits, which allow a harmonization of the Bible with empirical observations. It is quite natural, then, for there to be an attack on my starting premise: God cannot lie. The following list, provided by @religulous of the Twitter community, is supposedly a list of Bible passages in which God lies.

  1. Genesis 2:17, 3:4
  2. 1 Kings 22:6, 22:19-23
  3. 2 Chronicles 18:22
  4. Job 1:21
  5. Psalm 201:7
  6. Proverbs 6:16-19
  7. Jeremiah 4:10, 20:7
  8. Ezekiel 14:9
  9. Matthew 12:40
  10. Matthew 16:28
  11. Mark 9:1
  12. Luke 9:27
  13. John 7:8-10, 8:44; 14:11-14
  14. 2 Thessalonians 2:11

We will take each of theses in turn for the next three devotionals and see if these really are examples of God lying.


1.

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. (Genesis 2:17)
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. (Genesis 3:4)

When Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge they did not immediately drop dead. However, the consequence of the act of disobedience was God withdrawing his physical presence from the world. This caused radioactive decay to begin and the world fell into its corrupted state. Adam and Eve began to age. In biology this is called senescence. Their cells began to die and had to be be replaced through cell division (mitosis) which is prone to errors in DNA replication. Radioactive decay caused ionizing radiation which caused mutation. The mutations were copied along with everything else. Adam and Eve’s bodies began to die.

As it turns out, this is exactly what God said would happen, but we will deal with this in a separate post during June.


2.

Then the king of Israel gathered the prophets together, about four hundred men, and said unto them, Shall I go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall I forbear? And they said, Go up; for the Lord shall deliver it into the hand of the king. (1 Kings 22:6)

This is clearly an instance of false prophets lying, not God.

And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee. (1 Kings 22:19-23)

This gives us the context to understand why the prophets were lying to King Ahab. This is the prophet Micaiah speaking to King Ahab of Israel and King Jehosaphat of Judah. Micaiah reveals why, when the Kings went to the false prophets they were lied to, by revealing the truth to them. In heaven God asked how the fall of Ahab would be brought about. He had a volunteer from among the spirits who said that he would go and cause the false prophets to lie to Ahab. This is an example of God being truthful, and He is also being honest and transparent about the circumstances.


3.

Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee. (2 Chronicles 18:22)

This is a recounting of the same event as in the example 2. above. It is not an example of God lying, it is an example of an atheist lying about God.


4.

And said, Naked came I out of my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD. (Job 1:21)

This is not an example of God lying. Its occurrence in this list is an example of an atheist lying about God.


5.

There is no Psalms 201. However, in case this is a typo for Psalms 120…

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. (Psalms 120:7)

This is a lament of a person, such as King David, in context it is not God speaking, neither is it an example of a lie, other than being another example of an atheist lying about God.


6.

These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. (Proverbs 6:16-19)

This tells us that the Lord God hates lying. It is another example of an atheist lying about God.


We’ll cover the remainder of these passages tomorrow.

Does it look to you that God lies? Today’s image is from here.

March 25th

From Tehom to Sheol

When Noah was six hundred years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month all the outlets of the vast body of water beneath the earth burst open, all the floodgates of the sky were opened, and rain fell on the earth for forty days and nights.

(Genesis 7:11-12) Good News Translation

Amos tells us that the great deep was devoured by fire, and that’s a conclusion which we can deduce from our spherical hollow Earth model based around a gravitational singularity.

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March 22nd

Is Pilot Mountain, North Carolina, one of the pillars of the Earth?

The Pillars of the Earth

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.

(1 Samuel 2:8) KJV

The pillars of the earth” are incorporated into a 3D model of a spherical Earth in which they’re part of Earth’s internal structure. They don’t require us to believe that the Earth is flat.

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March 20th

The Sides of the Pit

Asshur is there and all her company: his graves are about him: all of them slain, fallen by the sword: Whose graves are set in the sides of the pit, and her company is round about her grave: all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which caused terror in the land of the living.

(Ezekiel 32:22-23) KJV

Yesterday we concluded that after death all souls go to the grave. This is one of the ways in which the word sheol is translated. We’ve found that after that there are two possible outcomes:

  1. Those who knew the Lord during their life remain in the mantle,
  2. Those who rejected the Lord descend into the core.
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March 18th

The Lower Parts of the Earth

(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

(Ephesians 4:9-10) KJV

After the crucifixion Jesus descended into the lower parts of the Earth. He went there to gather the souls of the Old Testament saints who were awaiting his coming.

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March 16th

The Belly of Hell

Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.

(Jonah 2:1-2) KJV

Jonah drowned and died. According to his testimony his soul went to hell, his body was swallowed by a fish. In hell he cried out to the Lord and he was resurrected in the fish’s belly.

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March 14th

Happy Π Day!

Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

(2 Chronicles 4:2) KJV

It’s March 14 which could be written as 3.14, the mathematical constant Π which expresses the relationship between circumference and diameter. Atheist science trolls (ASTs) dismiss the Bible because, supposedly, it has the wrong value for Π.

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March 12th

The Ends of the Earth

God alone knows the way,
Knows the place where wisdom is found,
Because he sees the ends of the earth,
Sees everything under the sky.

(Job 28:23-24) Good News Translation

If the Earth has ends does that mean it has to be flat? No, because “end” is a translation of a word which means “extremity or furthest reaches of” in which case we’re talking about the beach.

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March 8th

What sealed the fountains of the great deep?

The Hydrology of Eden Deduction 6

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

(Genesis 7:11) NKJV

At the end of the second day Earth was a solid sphere. We modeled how the solid Earth was formed into a hollow vessel, like a potter shaping clay, as the water surrounding the Earth passes into it’s interior.

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