How could there be photosynthetic life before there was a sun?

And God said, โ€œLet the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.โ€ And it was so.

(Genesis 1:11) ESV

And God said, โ€œLet there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years,

(Genesis 1:14) ESV

The third day of creation, when God made the dry land appear and covered it with lush vegetation, is a subject of derision from atheist science trolls (ASTs) because of where it occurs in the sequence of creation.

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Sun and Moon

And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

(Isaiah 66:23) KJV

The Millennial Kingdom will have a sun and moon, although the sun will be a dim glimmer compared to what it is now. The majority of the light in the Millennial Kingdom will be the glory of the Lord who now inhabits Jerusalem. Here Isaiah is speaking about the Millennial Kingdom.

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Earth is the Center of the Observable Universe

The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

(Habakkuk 3:11) KJV

Axiom III is “Earth is the Center of the Observable Universe.” We can deduce Principle I from the following physical evidence, empirical observations or established theories which are part of Axiom III.

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The Brightness of the Firmament

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. (Daniel 12:3)

The wise leaders will shine with all the brightness of the sky. And those who have taught many people to do what is right will shine like the stars forever.

(Daniel 12:3) Good News Translation

Then God’s people will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom. Listen, then, if you have ears!

(Matthew 13:43) Good News Translation

The creation of gravity and formation of the firmament was to establish a place, heaven, where God would dwell in perpetual light because the firmament is bright like the sun, as we see from Daniel.

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Rejoicing to Run a Race

{To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.} The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

(Psalms 19:1-6) KJV

The new heaven and new Earth spoken of in the Revelation are filled with the light of the glory of God. There’ll be no day or night, no need of the sun or moon. So what’s going to happen to the sun and moon?

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Firmament 2

Mindmap of the sequential development of the firmament rabbit trail

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

(Genesis 1:14-17) KJV

Key words:

  • sun/moon/stars
  • lights (2nd heaven)

The Firmament Rabbit Trail
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Which New Heaven and New Earth?

For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands. They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

(Isaiah 65:17-24) KJV

Isaiah and others speak about a new heavens and a new earth, but he isn’t referring to the new heaven and new earth which are described in Revelation chapters 21 and 22.

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Math – A Recipe for Fudge

The weapons we use in our fight are not the world’s weapons but God’s powerful weapons, which we use to destroy strongholds. We destroy false arguments; we pull down every proud obstacle that is raised against the knowledge of God; we take every thought captive and make it obey Christ.

(2 Corinthians 10:4-5) Good News Translation

The beauty of math, and the reason why it is the best recipe for fudge in the universe, is that it proves that a geocentrospheric model is possible.

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